Trafalgar Colliery and Railway

OS Grid Reference: SO625144The featured image above is taken from the Way-Mark site covering the Forest of Dean . [3]

The History of the Colliery and its Tramway and Railway Connections

The Trafalgar gale was leased to Corneleus Brain in 1842, but work does not  to seem  to have  commenced until 1860. After 1867, coal from the adjacent Rose-in-hand gale was also worked. [1]

Since at least 1847 Corneleus and Francis Brain had been lessees of the Rose-in-Hand gale and in 1867 they obtained permission from the Crown  to effectively amalgamate the two games into one for the purpose of working the coal which would have been raised via the shafts at Trafalgar.  No record a shaft for the Rose-in-Hand exists. Coal, prior to 1867, was brought to the surface via the Royal Forester gale which ultimately became part of Speech House Hill Colliery. [2]

It seems as though the Brains also acquired the Strip-and-at-it Colliery which lay close to Trafalgar across a small ridge.  Strip-and-at-it had already been worked for some time ,The probably since 1832.  The gale was surrendered to the Crown in 1864 and was then acquired by the Brains. [2]

There were two shafts at Trafalgar, which were worked by the same winding engine. They extended through the Upper Coal Measures (Supra-Pennant Group) down to the Churchway High Delf Seam at a depth of 586 ft. The two shafts were less than 40 yards apart. Coal was lifted up one shaft and empties were taken down the other shaft. [1][2]

The Lightmoor Press website comments as follows :

“One shaft was the downcast, where fresh air went down into the workings, and the other had a kind of bonnet fitted over the tacklers which covered the top of the land pit so that very little air was lost.  The main upcast shaft was called Puzzle, as the pit had been driven up-hill to the surface.

The cage was guided down the shaft by wooden guides running inside metal shoes on the side of the cage.  Wooden guides were used on both pits.  Ten men and boys could ride in each cage.

A report in the Gloucester Journal  in February 1867 tells how in working the ‘large vein of coal’ at the colliery the declavity was so great that the ordinary method of hauling to the bottom of the shaft, presumably horse or man power, was impracticable.  Corneleus’ son, William Blanch Brain, the colliery engineer therefore erected a small winding engine on the surface close to the pit’s mouth in order to draw the loaded carts from the coal face to the bottom of the shaft.  The carts were connected to a long chain which ran to the far extremities of the workings.  Initially the great drawback was the delay in communication between the coal face and the pit bank when hauling was required. So W. B. Brain, who was also an electrician, procured a pair of electric bells and placed one in the winding engine house and the other at the top of the ‘dipple’ or haulage road.  Several tappers were then placed along the road allowing the men in any part of the works to signal for the starting or stopping of the haulage engine.  The bell at the top of the dipple kept the men at pit bottom informed as to what was happening.  The success of the system was such that communication between pit bottom and the main winding engineman was also electrified.  At pit bottom, a pair of tappers, one white and one red, were provided and on touching the white one a bell in the engine room sounded and the words ‘go on’ appeared on the dial plate attached.  On touching the red the word ‘stop’ was shown.

Electrical communication was also used on the surface, enabling W. B. Brain in his office to be kept in touch with the happenings at the pit.  Another snippet mentioned in the article was that a patent pump was in use at the colliery which instead of throwing successive stream of water threw a continuous one.” [2]

It is of interest that in the 1880s, when the Forest of Dean was a highly industrialised area, people were chosing to take a holiday in the forest and choosing too to visit working pits. John Bellows wrote a guide book in 1880 entitled, ‘A Week’s Holiday in the Forest of Dean’. It contains a commentary about the Trafalgar Colliery. The Lightmoor Press website quotes from it:

Before going down (underground) we may as well look at the large sandstone quarry on the premises where stones are cut for supporting the galleries below.  Let us pass through the tramway tunnel, 150 yards long, cut through the ridge of the hilltop, to a shaft on the other side.  This narrow ridge is the outcrop of the measures, and in the tunnel we can examine, rock, clod and duns, and a little thin coal with rock again below it. Having seen this we turn back again, enter the cage, and, closing our eyes to avoid the giddiness, are lowered 600 feet so smoothly, that we are hardly conscious of motion.  At the bottom we go into the underground office, and are supplied with a little brass lamp, and a bunch of cotton waste to wipe our hands upon, and then attended by ‘the bailey’ enter one of the main roadways. … Where necessary, the underground workings are lighted with gas, and one of the partners, Mr. William Brain, is now preparing to adopt the electric light (which is already in use on the surface at night) and also to utilise electricity as a motive power at many of the underground inclines, or dipples, in the colliery, where steam is not available; and thus save many horses.  There are more than forty horses living in this pit.  They never return to daylight until worn out or disabled. Some of them have been down here a dozen years, and are in excellent health.

Fire damp is wholly unknown in the Forest of Dean, and miners work with naked lights. Choke damp breaks in rarely, and seldom gives any trouble.  The pit is remarkably free from water, and being furnished with every known appliance, and most admirably kept, is probably one of the best in the Forest, or out of it.  Eleven hundred men and boys are employed here: 600 underground getting coal, and 500 as labourers &c., above ground, and in subsidiary occupations.  Good colliers earn, at present, 3s 8d per day; masons 3s 4d; and labourers, 2s 4d.  One can hardly imagine anything more severe in the way of labour than that of a miner lying on his side in a four foot passage, cutting away with his pick the hard rock encasing the seam. … The output from Trafalgar, at the moment we are writing, which is a dull season is seven hundred tons of coal per day.” [2][4]

Trafalgar Colliery. [10]Trafalgar Colliery. [11]

The Trafalgar colliery was unique in Dean in being lit by gas, and electric pumps were installed underground in 1882, the first recorded use of electric power in a mine. [1] Gas was forced down the shaft by means of a one horse horizontal engine erected in the gas house at the pit bank. The gas house appears as a building shown on the 1898 Severn & Wye plans containing a circular structure. [2][8] It appears on the 5th map extract below.

Francis William Thomas (Frank) Brain had been associated with the use of electric floodlights on the Severn Bridge in 1879 where they had been used to enable construction work to continue at night to make the best use of the tides. After use on the bridge, the apparatus, consisting of a couple of powerful lamps supplied by a Gramme machine, was re-erected at Trafalgar on the surface to light the colliery yard. The Lightmoor website continues:

Electricity was also used at Trafalgar when the first underground pumping plant was installed in December 1882.  The installation at Trafalgar was the first recorded use of electric power in mines. The equipment consisted of a Gramme machine on the surface driven by a steam engine and a Siemens dynamo used as a 1.5 horse power motor belted to a pump underground. The Gramme machine still exists today, preserved in the National Museum of Wales in Cardiff.  It attained such success that three additional plants were erected in May 1887 and these did the larger part of the pumping.  The last installation consisted of a double-throw nine inch plunger, by ten inch stoke, situated 2,200 yards from the generator and 1,650 yards from the bottom of the shaft.  The pipe main was seven inches in diameter and at its maximum speed of twenty-five strokes a minute the pump lifted 120 gallons to a height of 300 feet.  The current was conveyed to the motor by an 13/16 copper wire carried on earthenware cups.  The E.M.F. was 320 volts and the current required was 43 amperes.  The installation cost of the engine and the electrical plant was £644, whilst the weekly cost for maintenance, including 15% for depreciation and interest on capital was £7 17s. or .002d. per horse power per hour.  The efficiency attained throughout was only 35% but the engine which was an old one lost 6.49 horse power, or 22% alone.  If this was removed from the equation then the efficiency was 45%.” [2]

In the mid-1880s, the Trafalgar Colliery got into some financial difficulty. This was resolved in a way that kept the creditors at bay and left the Brain family in overall control. To do this a new company was formed – the Trafalgar Colliery Co. Ltd. This new company saw the amalgamation of the interests of the Brain family at Trafalgar and the Wye Colliery Co. who leased Speculation Colliery. Both mines came under the control of this new company. [2]

A narrow-gauge tramway (Brain’s Tramway) was built soon after the opening of the colliery to connect to the Great Western Railway’s Forest of Dean Branch at Bilson [1] The single line of 2ft 7.5in gauge utilised edge rails laid on wooden sleepers and ran east from the colliery, turning south-east at Laymoor, and terminated 1.5 miles away at interchange sidings at Bilson. It would appear that the authorisation for its construction was a Crown licence for ‘a road or tramway 15 feet broad’ dated May 1862. The date the line was opened for traffic is unknown as, although the first of three locomotives used on the tramway was built in 1869, it is possible that it may have been horse worked before this date. [2] Brain’s Tramway will, I hope, be the subject of a future post in this series. 6″ OS Map from 1901 showing both Mr Brain’s Tramway and the standard-gauge sidings of the Colliery and their connection to the Severn & Wye Railway close to Drybrook Road Station. [8]The extent of Mr Brain’s Tramway when first built to the Bilson Exchange Sidings. The point of conflict with the Severn and Wye near Laymoor (as mentioned below) can easily be picked out on the map extract. [8]Two pictures above taken along the line of Brain’s tramway – August 2017. [14]

Tramway locomotives hauled trains of 20-25 trams of coal on each trip along Brain’s Tramway to Bilson, until 1872 when the Severn & Wye built their branch to Bilson. This crossed the tramway on the level near Laymoor and resulted in the need for the two companies to negotiate an acceptable coexistence. This became more urgent once the Servern and Wye extended beyond Drybrook Road an when, in 1878, passenger trains began running over the crossing.

Although a connection had been made to the Severn and Wye Railway in 1872 [1] at a point between Serridge Junction and Drybrook Road station, a large element of Trafalgar’s output still travelled along the tramway to Bilson. [2]

In 1872, agreement had been reached between the Severn and Wye and Trafalgar Colliery for sidings to be put in to serve the colliery screens. Soon after the Mineral Loop of the Severn and Wye was completed, a loop off the main line was installed and sidings were laid. However, the Severn and Wye was dismayed to note that Trafalgar was still making heavy use of the tramway.

The Lightmoor Press website comments that:

An approach was made to the colliery company to provide arrangements for loading hand picked nut coal on the Severn & Wye sidings as well as on the Great Western at Bilson. This was rejected at first but by January 1887, after further negotiations, Trafalgar approved a proposal whereby the Severn & Wye altered the sidings and shed whilst the colliery company altered the screens, thus resolving this ‘vexed question’.

Finally, in December 1889, an agreement was entered into between the Severn & Wye and the Trafalgar Colliery Company who, it was said, ‘are desirous of obtaining railway communication to Bilson Junction in lieu of their existing trolley road.’
It was agreed that on or before 31 March 1890 the colliery company would construct new sidings and the railway company would lay in a new junction at Drybrook Road. Although the new junction was a quarter of a mile closer to Drybrook Road than the old sidings, the mileage charge was to remain the same.  The accommodation, on approximately the same level as Drybrook Road station, was to be constructed so that traffic to and from the Great Western would be placed on a different siding to that which was to pass over the Severn & Wye system. For taking traffic to Bilson Junction for transfer to the Great Western the colliery was to be charged 7d per loaded wagon, although empties were to pass free. The transfer traffic also had to be conveyed ‘at reasonable times and in fair quantities so as to fit in with the ordinary workings of the Railway Company trains’.

The new sidings were brought into use on 1st October 1890.” [2]

This agreement resulted in the abandonment of the length of the tramway from Laymoor to Bilson Junction. Two of the colliery’s narrow gauge locomotives were put up for sale, neither sold. [2]

The colliery appears to have owned three locomotives: ‘Trafalgar’ and ‘The Brothers’ were 0-4-2 side-tank locos. The third locomotive was ‘Free Miner’, an 0-4-0 side-tank. Trafalgar continued in use until 1906, working on the northern extension of the tramway, built in 1869, to the Golden Valley Iron Mine at Drybrook. [2]

Trafalgar was one of the larger pits, employing 800 men and boys in 1870, and producing 88,794 tons of coal in 1880 and about 500 tons/day in 1906. [1]

However, by 1913 difficulties were being encountered with water. The managements of both Foxes Bridge and Lightmoor Collieries were worried about the threatened abandonment of Trafalgar. They feared that if pumping ceased, their own collieries might be under threat from the build-up of water within Trafalgar’s workings.  The colliery was offered for sale to Crawshay’s, the owners of Lightmoor and with an interest in Foxes Bridge, but at a figure they would not entertain at that time. [2]

At the beginning of 1919 the main dip roadway at Trafalgar was suddenly, and unexpectedly, flooded.  A report in the Gloucester Journal  on 25 January stated that as a result of the flooding 450 men were temporarily unemployed.  Apparently the electric pump, which had drained the deep workings for over 30 years, failed. [1][2]

The flooding once again led to worries by the Foxes Bridge and Lightmoor managements  about the dangers to their concerns.  Trafalgar was now offered for sale at £16,000. The Foxes Bridge and Lightmoor managements were prepared to offer £10,000 and, in an attempt to meet the difference, the Crown agreed to provide £4,000 should the sale go through.  It was estimated at this time that there was still 2.5 million tons of coal to be worked in the pit and its associated gales which would give the Crown an annual return from tonnage rates of £1,000 for 20 years, certainly paying back the £4,000. Trafalgar was sold in November 1919. It continued to be worked until 1925, producing around 4,500 tons of coal each year. After closure, it may have been that pumping continued for a while but was interrupted by the coal strike in 1926, one report stating that upon the conclusion of the strike the workings were found to be flooded.  The effects of the colliery were sold off by auctions between 1925 and 1927. [1][2][3]

Various Locations around the site of the Colliery

  1. Trafalgar Arch – between Serridge Junction and Drybrook Road, the Severn and Wye Railway ran very close to the large spoil heap of Trafalgar Colliery. The line was protected by a stone retaining wall braced at one point by a brick-lined stone arch. This was built by the S&WR at a cost of about £200 in 1878 or thereabouts, after lengthy negotiations with the colliery company, who wanted to tip spoil on the other side of the line. It is uncertain whether or not the bridge was used for this purpose and tipping appears to have continued on the original site. In 1887 the retaining wall was damaged by a major slip. It was replaced by a stronger one in 1904, but this soon collapsed, and was eventually rebuilt. The bridge was renovated when the old railway track-bed became a cycleway. The arch was restored to as-new condition before October 2001. [9] It is highlighted on the 25″ OS Map extract below. [8] We walked to the colliery location in September 2019 and took the picture of the arch below.

    Trafalgar Arch – taken on 18th September 2019. (My photograph)

    The Strip-and-at-it end of the Tramway Tunnel [12]The Trafalgar end of the Tunnel. [12]The locations of the two shafts at Trafalgar Colliery. [14]

    A view from immediately to the North of the East end of the Spoil Heap at Trafalgar Colliery. [15]

  2. The Disused Tunnel – the tunnel between Trafalgar and Strip-and-at-it Collieries was  cut through a small ridge between the two collieries. It had a very narrow bore as is evident in the adjacent pictures. The north portal, in the first of the photographs, is very difficult to access. The south portal was in the wall of an old quarry facing the site of the Trafalgar Pit.
  3. The Colliery Screens – there are remains of retaining walls from the screens which can still be seen on site, a picture appears below.
  4. The tip – the Colliery spoil heap still exists on the north side of the cycleway which follows the Severn and Wye Railway formation. “The earthwork remains of the Trafalgar Colliery spoil heap are visible as an earthwork on aerial photographs. This massive spoil heap was situated to the south west of the colliery buildings and is centred on SO 6223 1424. It measures 485 metres in length and up to 120 metres in width. North east of the spoil heap at SO 6241 1445 is a quarry where stone was extracted for colliery buildings and shaft linings.” [13] It was later used as the route of the tramway through the tunnel to Strip-and-at-it Mine. The spoil heap material is derived from the Supra-Pennant Coal Measures.
  5. The Shafts – the two shafts are marked in the early 21st Century by two large standing stones, as shown in the adjacent image.
  6. Trafalgar House – the home of Sir Francis Brain is still in use as a private dwelling. Two modern pictures are shown below. These are followed by a small extract from the 25″ OS Map [8] and a picture of the house and tramway which is in an article by Ian Pope in Archive Journal No. 84. [16]

The remaining colliery buildings and screens. [14]

Trafalgar House. [14] ……. (NB: This is actually the next door property, please see comments below)

Trafalgar House,. The picture was taken in 2002. [1]

25″ OS Map – Trafalgar House. [8]

Trafalgar House early in the life of the Colliery. [16]

References

  1. https://www.forestofdeanhistory.org.uk/resources/sites-in-the-forest/trafalgar-colliery, accessed on 30th August 2019.
  2. http://lightmoor.co.uk/forestcoal/CoalTrafalgar.html, accessed on 30th August 2019.
  3. http://way-mark.co.uk/foresthaven/historic/trafalgr.htm, accessed on 30th August 2019.
  4. John Bellows; A Week’s Holiday in the Forest of Dean; 1880, replica edition Holborn House, 2013.
  5. Cyril Hart; The Industrial History of Dean; David & Charles, Newton Abbott, 1971.
  6. https://rogerfarnworth.wordpress.com/2017/09/28/the-branch-tramways-and-sidings-of-the-severn-and-wye-tramroad, collated in February 2018. This link gives some background information on all of the branch tramways of the Severn and Wye. I hope to be able to provide some more specific detail on a number of these tramways in the future.
  7. Gloucestershire County Council Historic Record Archive which holds a great deal of source information. Monument No. 5701; https://www.heritagegateway.org.uk/Gateway/Results_Single.aspx?uid=4329&resourceID=108, accessed on 20th September 2019. … The Severn and Wye Co built a branch from Mirystock to Churchway, where a junction was made with the Bullo Pill tramroad in 1812 (This became the GWR Forest of Dean Branch). A short loop line at Mirystock was constructed in 1847 to give better access to the Churchway branch from the south, a second spur to the Churchway branch was constructed in 1865. … The Churchway Tramway closed in 1877 and was lifted almost immediately. I hope that this tramway will be the subject of a future post. The 25″ OS Maps of the time, very fortunately, were drawn over a significant time frame. This means that one part of the Mirystock Mine appears on the maps (below) but not the southern half which was the part which obliterated the junction of the Churchway Tramway with the Severn and Wye Main line. Four extracts from those maps appear below. The first three show the length of the Churchway tramway, the fourth shows the junction with the Severn & Wye Tramroad in slightly greater detail. These are sourced from reference 8 below.
  8. https://maps.nls.uk/os/25inch-england-and-wales, accessed on 20th September 2019.
  9. https://www.forestofdeanhistory.org.uk/resources/sites-in-the-forest/trafalgar-arch, accessed on 22nd September 2019.
  10. http://way-mark.co.uk/foresthaven/historic/hstcin0e.htm, accessed on 22nd September 2019.
  11. https://www.flickr.com/photos/8812089@N06/15926122657, accesed on 22nd September 2019. … Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 2.0 Generic (CC BY-NC-SA 2.0)
  12. https://aboutangiekay.blogspot.com/2019/04/strip-and-at-it-and-other-reprehensible.html?m=1, accessed on 22nd September 2019.
  13. https://www.heritagegateway.org.uk/Gateway/Results_Single.aspx?uid=8597&resourceID=108, accessed on 24th September 2019.
  14. http://www.industrialgwent.co.uk/wuk12c-fodne/index.htm, accessed on 24th September 2019.
  15. https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/4957275, accessed on 24th September 2019.
  16. Ian Pope; Mr Brain’s Tramway; in Archive No. 84, Black Dwarf, Lightmoor Press, Lydney, 2014; p3-31.

14 thoughts on “Trafalgar Colliery and Railway

  1. Peter

    Hi Roger,
    I came here following the link from the FoDFHT forum, one of several you have posted in the forum, wondering exactly what relevance the page might have to the forum which is, after all, about family history and not just FoD history in general. I don’t, personally, see the relevance. However, what I find most disconcerting is the amount of information and pictures you have wilfully copied from other sites. I wonder if you sought permission because, although there are times when it’s allowable to reproduce certain copyrighted material, I don’t think your website falls into any of the allowable categories.

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    1. rogerfarnworth Post author

      Hello Peter

      Thank you for your comments.

      I directly reference everything that I post on my blog. I specifically do so to ensure that the relevant connection can be made by anyone who reads the material I produce. All of my blogs are written research which I carry out, in this case about the Forest of Dean, for my own benefit and which I then share with others on my blog. I do not make any money from the research I do, nor from the blog, and I avoid posting images and text that are from sites which have specific copyright issues attached to them.

      So, for instance, I do not post images from flickr unless the specific image has the relevant licence to be copied. Flickr has very clear guidance about this. I respect that guidance (on flickr) even when the person claiming copyright does not actually hold the copyright. The same applies to smugmug and a number of other sites as well. There might be a specific image which I have missed, but the vast majority of the images that I link to or include in my blog have already been published openly on the web or are beyond the copyright period of the original image. This is specifically true of postcards from the distant past which form a greater part of the old images that I use.

      There are occasional cases where I have had conversations with children or grandchildren of original photographers about the images taken by their parents or grandparents. In those cases, every response I have had to the use of photographs has been positive.

      I have also had some discussion on a forum which is primarily about copyright issues. I have particularly explored the differences in copyright law between different European countries. The French system, for instance, has much longer periods before the copyright lapses on original images than we have in the UK. I think that I have operated within the law. If, however, there is a specific image which you believe I should not have copied in one of my blogs, I will investigate further. If appropriate I will remove that image or text from my blog.

      Where there is significant doubt in my mind about whether the item is in the public domain, I contact the likely copyright holder. Occasionally I do miss something. However, as an example, I went to great lengths to contact copyright holders of photographs in relation to the posts that I have written on the Kiso Forest Railways in Japan. This involved ensuring that I communicated the request in Japanese as well as English and waiting for responses before posting.

      I will happily not post anything further on the Forest genealogy site if that is what the moderators feel is appropriate. There is no personal profit in my sharing these things. I just hope people enjoy them. My own understanding of genealogical research is that it usually involves an element of understanding of the circumstances around family history as well as the bare genealogical facts and connections. I recollect a comment to that effect on the site to which you refer.

      I hope that this response puts your mind at rest, but please do point out individual issues that you remain concerned about. I will investigate them. If there is a specific picture of yours that I have missed and have as a result included in a blog inappropriately, please point this out and please accept my apologies.

      Yours sincerely

      Roger

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  2. Peter

    It really is of no issue to me Roger as you haven’t posted anything belonging to me. But I do post images on the web and would be annoyed if you were to use them without my permission. You seem to have a very loose understanding of copyright in the UK. For instance, just because an image has “already been published openly on the web” does not mean it isn’t copyright. You should assume everything is copyrighted unless it is stated otherwise, not the other way around. You have, for instance, reproduced two images from the https://aboutangiekay.blogspot.com website. There is no copyright information on the site (that I can find) therefore, the images should not be used unless you get the owner’s permission. No copyright information means it exists, not that it doesn’t. The default, by law, is everything is copyrighted unless it clearly meets the age limit or it is expressly waived. You have also used swathes of text from Ian Popes website which clearly states “© All pages copyright Ian Pope, 2000-2011”. That’s a clear breach of copyright.
    There are, of course, allowed uses of copyrighted material. This page lists them https://www.gov.uk/guidance/exceptions-to-copyright. However, I don’t think your website falls into any of these categories.
    As I said, it’s really not my concern but, in a general sense, I am concerned when someone feels they can copy and use other peoples material without permission. I have sold usage to my photographs in the past and, therefore, I’m appreciative of the loss the people who’s material you have used may have, potentially, suffered. If you were to use any of my pictures without my permission, you would certainly be receiving a large invoice in the post. I think you should reconsider what you are doing.
    Regarding posting links into the FoDFHT forum, I am not an administrator so it’s not for me to say you shouldn’t. I was making a personal comment which I stand by as your pages seem to contain much information about the mines but little about the people.

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    1. Harold Hale

      A wonderful piece of history especially for me. My Great grandfather Joseph Hale was the Under manager there for decades & once saved three mens lives during a fire in the pit. He was recognised for his bravery with a marble clock. His grandson, my father, was born at Strip & At It & I remember visiting there in the early 1950s. I have a photo of Joseph & his wife Helen who was a schoolteacher. Their daughter Emily was also a schoolteacher at the Slad & taught my father. She is the teacher in Winifred Foley’s book ‘A child in the Forest’. Their son Jack built Brierley garage & lived in the bungalow there. He died suddenly on the forecourt in May 1950. Joseph Hale was killed on the road outside his home, Bowsen House, in Steam Mills in 1936 (?). My father worked at Brierley garage & later at Eastern United. After six years as an engineer in the REME during the war he worked at Northern United until it closed. He then started Hale & Yemm in Newtown, Steam Mills, which is still operating to this day owned by an ex – apprentice from Northern United.
      Hope I haven’t bored you & that it was of some interest.

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  3. Phil

    Absolutely fascinating… thank you for compiling and sharing this history. I was lucky enough to be in the Forest of Dean this summer visiting family (when it was allowed!). I find the industrial history of the area very interesting indeed.

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  4. Paul Phelps

    Roger, Your blog is mostly quite interesting and is of the area that I have lived all my life. It’s a beautiful and enchanting part of the country like no other. Most of our industrial past (and there’s plenty of it) has been systematically obliterated by those that know best, until it’s too late. But that’s by the by, I have noticed that with reference to; The Strip-and-at-it end of the Tramway Tunnel [12], This is totally not the case. The tunnel entrance on the Trafalgar end is in no way connected to, or ever was connected to the one that is shown in your photo at Strip and at It. The tunnel exit is farther up the bank and is buried. I though I would pass on this info that is locally known so that you may change it in your blog if you feel so inclined. Keep up the forays into interesting places…

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  5. Roger Worgan

    Hi Roger, I just thought you might like to know that the photo of the pinkish-beige building (I hardly know how to describe that colour) looking across a field of bracken is not of Trafalgar House, but of the neighbouring property. Trafalgar House itself is behind it at the bottom of the hill, and entirely obscured in the photo. For many years the property in this photo was known as Trafalgar Cottage, but it has apparently been given the rather less appropriate (and definitely more pretentious) name Trafalgar Lodge by a recent owner. At the time when Trafalgar Colliery was still in operation the building served as the colliery office and was about three-fifths the size of the present house, the remainder having been added during the eighties when several large extensions were built to make it more habitable for my own large family, who lived there at the time.

    Another possible point of interest: you may have noticed the changes to the upper part of Trafalgar House between the early and more recent pictures, the whole attic storey having been removed and replaced with an odd-looking flat roof. This alteration took place in the early 60s when my grandparents owned the place. It was not done for aesthetic or architectural reasons, but was due to my then-teenaged aunt, whose room was up there, having left some clothes drying in front of an unattended gas fire. After the resulting conflagration was extinguished, my builder grandfather decided it was easier just to excise the most badly damaged rooms and put a new roof where they had been, than to try to reconstruct everything. The house was already far larger than they really needed, or could easily cope with, since they lacked the wealth and staff of servants that the Brains would have possessed. I suspect that the loss of a mere two or three rooms really didn’t make much difference to their lives!

    @Harold Hale’s post was quite interesting. I would think that everyone around there is very familiar with the company founded by his father; it is probably the most important builders’ merchant in the area, and certainly the best known. My grandmother (she who dwelt in Trafalgar House after the Brains departed) was elder sister to to the local author he mentions, Winnifred Foley, whose family were from the nearby village, Brierley. She also played a starring role in her first, best-known book under the name Bessie. My grandmother was, to say the least, not happy about this in her later years. Those who are prepared to portray unsuspecting family members in their autobiographical works also have to be prepared to reap what they have sown!

    @Paul Phelps is correct, by the way.

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    1. Nick Duberley

      Hi Roger,
      Been puzzling over how to get back in touch with you.

      I like the rebranding of Trafalgar Lodge – I heard a rumour that the donkey field is soon to be known as Trafalgar Park Estate.

      You can reach my via my website https://www.nickduberley.com/ if you’d like to get back to me. I’m doing some family history research, mostly centred on re-issuing my mother’s book “Heaven Lies About Us”.

      All the best – Nick

      PS good use of ‘dwelt’.

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    2. nickdub3

      Hi Roger,
      I’ve been hoping to get back in touch with you.
      I enjoyed the renaming to Trafalgar Lodge – is the rumour that the Donkey Field is to be known as Trafalgar Park true, I wonder ?

      Be good to hear you’re still around. You can reach me via my website, https://www.nickduberley.com/

      Cheers

      Nick

      PS Good use of ‘dwelt’ 🙂

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  6. rogerfarnworth Post author

    Dear Roger

    Thank you for your reflections. I am indebted to you for taking the trouble to write. I have much appreciated the contributions to which you refer.

    I have taken the view at present that I will not alter the text of the blog when I receive these comments. To do so would mean that the weight of the comments was lost as other readers would be unable to identify what was being referred to.

    Thank you once again for your comments.

    Yours sincerely

    Roger

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